Talk:Beowulf Refit Class

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Wow that is the dumbest lookin thing ive ever seen. RadmCash 08:32, 25 March 2006 (EST)

I vote i get rid of this dumb ass lookin thing.All FE Cash's say aye!RadmCash 07:26, 26 March 2006 (EST)

AYE!RadmCash 07:26, 26 March 2006 (EST)

All those FE cash's opposed?RadmCash 07:26, 26 March 2006 (EST)

The Aye's have it then.this fugly thing goes pop!RadmCash 07:27, 26 March 2006 (EST)

Let the record reflect the Right Honourable Chris waved two cheerful fingers at the departing kitbash before the doors of room 101 closed. - Chris 13:40, 26 March 2006 (EST)

Ugh, it's back. What would be the proper and correct way to get it removed from FE? - Chris 11:31, 27 March 2006 (EST)

You cant, it's here to stay. As I said on the forums we have to let our COs have some room on what support craft they use in their sims. - MJ

What if I got a CO petition? Would that work? - Chris 15:02, 27 March 2006 (EST)

Afraid not Chris - if you don't want to use it in your sim you are not expected to. We would even let you pretend its not there!! - MJ

What if I made a flow chart, showing how the existance of this craft within FE will eventually lead to the ruination of the world economy and the end of human civilisation as we know it? Jokes aside, it's an awful design that only features in BF because in the days before sci fi art and the like, BF used 'orrible cut n' paste imagery and modded shots of the Defiant to represent shuttle classes that Bremer dreamed up whilst playing Doom and they wanted an evolution of that rather than a new and sensible design. COs already have plently of leeways when it comes to support craft with established canon designs and the addition of the Huron and Mustang runabouts which show a clear evolutionary progression from the Danube beyond simply being a kitbash. And beyond that the specs are daft. The deck height is over six metres - even luxury craft such as Voyager were only about 3-4m tall per deck. It has two 40m long decks but can only hold 22 people? It has 4 Type-U+ pulse phaser cannons - more advanced weapons than the Defiant - the meanest fighter even seen in Trek. It has a Type-X array - again this was mounted on the Defiant. This is basically a Defiant that players can shoot things in without the bother of having to worry about getting a crew first. It's a horrible, horrible design and representative of a Bravo Fleet doctrine I thought FE was trying to escape from by limiting such obvious fanboy creations. I mean, just listen to it,

Many improvements include its weapons array, the addition of powerful sensors, enhanced warp and impulse capabilities and powerful shielding and hull plating. The refit also included a mission pod above the superstructure. Only two Pods have been designed. One is a weapons pod with two additional torpedo launchers (one forward, one aft). The other pod has a very advanced sensor and communications suite. It allows the small craft to operate as a scout, mobile communications relay, or as a sensor/communications jammer.

It's ridiculous! It's like we're a design bureau trying to sell the class to Starfleet! First off, if this is a tactical vessel as said, why the ability to transform into a super-sensor suite? Secondly, why does a 10x20x20 weapons pod have only two torpedo launchers? Are the provided BF specs with the weapons pod or the sensor pod? So does it have 3 torpedo launchers or 5? 90 torpedoes or only 60?

This is pure, uncut, raw, smell the hyperbole, Bremer Fleet rubbish. It's beneath us. We're collecting good writers, establishing the group as a serious writing one rather than an excuse to see what what a volley of Quantum-X torpedoes can do to a Borg Cube, and establishing that even though it's the future, Starfleet's not all that more advanced than it was during DS9 (avoiding of course the ablative armour and cloaking devices). This sort of thing pulls us down. It's rubbish, and we're better than it. In fact it's worse than rubbish; it's sooo rubbish, it almost hurts to think of it in our universe. It's that bad. AND I'm not even sure it could fit through most shuttlebay doors. So there. - Chris 10:33, 29 March 2006 (EST)

This thing has been under discussion for deletion for... over two years, it looks like... and nobody uses it, the only person who supported keeping it seems to be... MJ. Can we gut this?

Kayvin Jal 18:37, 29 June 2008 (BST)