Talk:List of starship names

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Started this 'cos I thought it'd be a good idea to have a list of canon names in one place - it'd be a great tool for writing bios aside from anything else - it'd be useful for the 'Service Record' section' and as well as that, if the ship has a page to itself, players can look uit up and perhaps find out who their character's previous CO was etc. But I've run out of time now, so what's done will have to do for now. :P - Chris 11:46, 27 Sep 2005 (EDT)

Looks good :) A welcome addition

Alex

Registries

USS Hale

I added the Hale's as 72351. A google for Nerwal, USS Hale throws up both 72351 and 75351. I'm hazarding a guess that the latter was made up by Nerwal when he left BF so as to avoid further hassle - BF isn't fond of giving up its vessels names and registries. But anyway, since this is clearly based on the BF one, I went with the first. I'm not sure if the Hale's still in BF to check, but it's not in TF9. -Chris 05:51, 23 November 2005 (EST)

I just checked, the registry for the Hale in BF now is NCC-75351. - Vince

USS Hull

Is there a registry for this? If not, 75000 is the estimated registry of the Sovvy herself, so I'd venture something between that and 80000. In fact I'd suggest lower than 76000, based purely on assumption. The Sovvies are big, bad and expensive. So there aren't many of them. So Starfleet has a relatively small range of numbers for them. You can still fit 1000 ships in that range, but it's considerably smaller than say, the Excelsior and Oberth ranges. -Chris 05:51, 23 November 2005 (EST)

No, no registry. It was launched 2383 ish in my mind. I didn't fix it any further because it was only a small part of the fic I was writing.

~Dan 09:54, 24 November 2005 (EST)

All New For The New Year!

I've added the new names that Alex and I spoke about a few days ago. This list is much larger (we're looking at least over hundred ships now!) and most are of them are as British as you can get (Alex had a thing about British names) plus as most of them are new they all have some sort of Earth reference as they were built in Sol. The main Starfleet list literally has all the classes that are actively used now in 2404. Then the other Starfleet lists allow for older classes (such as Mirandas, Excelsiors, etc) to be put in as well as starships that deserve a mention but are no longer active. We also have names for Romulan and Klingon ships. 99% of these are cannon names from the screen. We haven't had much reference to Cardassian, Dominion, Breen, Ferengi, Gorn, Tholian, etc ships so I haven't bothered with them. If someone wants to write them in they can!

Dan I hope you don't mind but I gave the USS Hull a registry similar to the USS Persus as she looked a bit lonely without one :( ...if you want to remove or change it I ain't fussed mate as its your baby!

Plus I named two ships after the two universities that me and Cath go to!! ~MJ

Categories

I was checking out the BF Main wiki today, and reminded myself that I meant to discuss categories with your guys concerning FE ships. On the BF 'un, they've got this which I think would be a good idea for us as well. We've already got First Fleet & Fourth Fleet categories, but I think a general {{Starships}} one would be good here as well, especially given the numbers we've now got. All it would take is the addition of {{Starships|Shipname}} where shipname is "Hood" rather than "USS Hood," and they all get added to the list clearly and alphabetically, without the need to edit and maintain the two seperate pages. I also think this would work well for character pages, with {{Characters|Hunter, James}} on them (or "James Hunter" if it's preferred), and we can even have subcategories such as {{NPC Characters|Taylor, Dan}} and {{Destroyed Starships|Melbourne}}.

What ye think? It just seems like the best way to cut uneeded fuss out of the picture. - Chris 15:49, 1 January 2006 (EST)

we do have http://www.fe.bravofleet.com/infobase/index.php/Category:Starships, the only down side I see is that you have to have an article for something to go on a category page. Don't get me wrong I love 'em but it is the only downside. ~MJ

Hoh, look at that. Regarding articles though, the vast majority of ships that have any importance to FE whatsoever (as well as a bunch that don't really), have articles, and if there are vessels which don't but continue to be referenced, then they can get articles made for them (which is what would happen anyway). I see what you're saying in that rather than a red link we've got nothing, but if an unmade starship entry's only got two pages linking to it, one being this and the other being a character bio, we'll probably manage without the page for the time being as it is. - Chris 11:51, 2 January 2006 (EST)

Just finished experimenting with sub-categories under "Starships," and I think if you are worried about losing references for ships without pages, it'd be relatively easy to maintain both the categories, and the manual list - in fact once using the categories, you'd only need the list for vessels without pages, cutting down on the workload even more. The biggest question now then (in my eyes), is what to call the categories. "Starships" seems the simplest we have as an all-rounder, but we also have "Federation Starships," which could serve as a sub-category if it's wanted. I'd submit that it's not needed however, as vessels allegiances are easily identifiable via their prefix - I think the Essex is the only anomoly in this as it's no longer a SF vessel, but it's still a Fed boat (and if we have Fed ships, we also need "klingon ships" and "Rommie ships" and "lost Klingon Ships" - muchos hassle). There's also "MIA Ships" which I think would also function as a sub-category under "Starships," as would "First Fleet" and "Fourth Fleet." There's "Ships of the First Fleet" which is clearly superfluous, and for simplicity's sake, it might be an idea to consider placing a new "Starbases" sub-category under "Starships" though it may be just as well having it as a stand alone category.

So, if that was the way we went, you'd have (as an example), the USS Thunderchild page with, "Starships", "MIA" (for the first) and "First Fleet" for the latter. Then you get the page appearing on three seperate lists, easily accessible to anyone who's looking for something specific. You could also have "Akira class" but that could go in the template at the bottom. This does seem like the best option to me. No loss of information, added accessibility and a minimum of fuss when creating or editing the pages. Your thoughts people? - Chris 10:44, 3 January 2006 (EST)

I like they way that works let's use it.- RadmCash

dunnit. Only just realised how many vessels have been added to this list. Where'd they all come from - I thought we had six ships, two egg timers and a bag of crisps to fight the Vulcans with - this is a helluva force, here. - Chris 15:06, 3 January 2006 (EST)

It does seem rather large and i am going to trim down sections of it.But if you really think about it Starfleet at one time had a heck of a lot more ships than this.i am pleased that a lot of the numbers are coming from the smaller easier to produce classes like steamrunner and sabre :) that is a more realistic slant to the whole thing.-RadmCash

you've also gotta remember that Starfleet has access to Dominion construction methods which we know from ST:DS9 are pretty impressive in building ships at a fast rate. Plus it has been over 6 years now since the last conflict. Starfleet has had access to resources now not just from Sol but from Vulcan (before I upset them!), Andoria, Tellar, Denobula, Alpha Centauri (before the Vulcans attacked it), Vega colony and Terra Nova. Plus Starfleet would have pushed for the contruction of more ships in protection of Sol with the end of the Borg War, the start of the Vulcan threat and now possible conflicts with the new Klingon Empire. The list should have just over 100 ships all together. Plus this doesn't include the number of Dominion ships that have been constructed. On top of that imagine how many cargo based ships are going in and out of the inner core territory, etc. -MJ

Trim down sections of it, Cash? You trimmed off the Lancaster! *goes off and renames the Loughborough, as it's a crappy town anyway* - Oook

Renegade Armada?

A lot of ships still say "Renegade Armada" on them. Once it's checked that the Renegade Armada is mentionned on their individual pages, their status should be moved back to part of an actual fleet. -Kayvin Jal 05:55, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm kept them like that to mark them for the future inclusion in the SRI. I'l try and get aroun d to switching them out to SRI soon. Captain Davies 00:47, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Destroyed Ships

Just noticed a few ships on here might have been destroyed in canon, even mentioned in their pages as being destroyed, but haven't been moved on this list. Going through the lot would be a bitch, but if you notice a discrepancy, please note it down on this master list! --Edge 11:11, 30 November 2011 (UTC)